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Keira Biddle
on Sep 7, 2010 11:58am
Property Manager Burke & Smyth TAMWORTH NSW |
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Does anyone know what section of the Act states that the tenant MUST pay rent up until the property is returned in the state that it was leased, excepting wear and tear? I have a difficult tenant and want to get my facts straight before telling her she is responsible |
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Kath M
on Sep 7, 2010 7:09pm
Senior Property Manager Queensland |
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I so wish this was a part of the QLD Act……….. please someone make my day and point it out to me too. Good luck Keira |
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Margaret Fogarty
on Sep 8, 2010 10:25pm
Principal DM Realty-- www.dmrealty.com.au Pimlico Townsville QLD |
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How can we added this to the QLD Act?? This would help with tenants doing nothing and just handing back keys in a total mess (Which we find doesn’t happen often -thank goodness) When it does happen you can easily lose a week or two with clean up and the poor owner loses money with a vacant property that can’t be marketed for rent. Margaret www.dmrealty.com.au |
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Ashlee Dodds
on Sep 9, 2010 8:58am
Property Manager Leah Jay Property Management East Maitland NSW |
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I hate to admit it but i dont think thats actually in the act. My understanding is that the tenants can only be charged rent whilst in possession of the property or in a current lease. I know that a lot of landlord’s insurance policies will cover up until the property is in a lettable state but Im pretty sure you cant charge the tenants. Sorry! Of course the tenant would be responsible for any costs in bringing the property back up to standard. |
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Margaret Fogarty
on Sep 9, 2010 10:08pm
Principal DM Realty-- www.dmrealty.com.au Pimlico Townsville QLD |
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This topic came up in the RED training I attended today. Simon Cox stated that we can’t charge rent after a tenant has vacated at end of lease or periodic. Simon said,however if the cleanup or damage makes the property unrentable for an extended period of time the landlord can seek compensation through QCAT for loss of income. Margaret www.dmrealty.com.au
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Keira Biddle
on Sep 10, 2010 9:59am
Property Manager Burke & Smyth TAMWORTH NSW |
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Afer asking quite a few Tafe teachers and people in the industry, as well as the OFT NSW, if the owner can prove that they are losing income due to the property not having been recitfied then they can apply to Tribunal to be reimbursed or compensated by the tenant. This leads me to ask – WHY is there not a section in the act which states that the tenant MUST continue to pay rent unitl the property is returned in the required state? is this not something that should be standard? It clearly states in the Act that they must leave the property in as close to the same condition as when they moved in, but why does it not cover the owner and agent for when this does not happen, or takes an extended period of time to be implemented? Seems like a pretty large oversight to me.. |
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Emily Sim
on Sep 10, 2010 1:47pm
apmasphere Sydney NSW |
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Keira, although this is not spelt out in the legislation, one of the reasons for the tribunal system is for landlords to be able to seek reimbursement for financial loss caused by a tenant or tenancy. Sounds to me like you have a good argument for this. If you have the evidance to support an application of this nature, why not include it in your application for compensation. It’s worth a try. |
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Lenore Duncombe
on Sep 16, 2010 9:27pm
Property Management Supervisor Tumut Real Estate Tumut NSW |
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Keira, I’ve had this one tested in the Tribunal on quite a few occasions. Generally if the length of time is reasonable, given the circumstances, then members really haven’t balked at accepting rent until re-lettable. It’s only when that time frame starts to stretch out that it has been a problem. |
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Brock Fisher
on Sep 17, 2010 2:15pm
National Training Manager Rental Express Gold Coast Queensland |
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Yep, I have tested this one a few times too – but essentially rent is only able to be charged until the day of handover. In the event it takes an undue time to return the property to lettable condition, the only avenue I am aware of is to re-apply for an order that compensation be payable. Sometimes they may be awarded at a rate equivalent to the weekly rent, but it is not “rent” per se. |
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Melissa Lott
on Sep 23, 2010 4:53pm
Property Manager City Beach Properties Wollongong NSW |
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Hi Keira, Yes, essentially the tenant can only be charged to the date of handover. I had an unusual situation where a tenant returned possession several days late but argued they shouldn’t be charged for the extra days simply because they didn’t physically sleep at the property for those extra nights, even though they had not yet fully vacated. It got to the point where I contacted the Department of Fair Trading whilst the tenant was arguing with me in the office expecting they would back me up (as per the Residential Tenancies ACT) but unfortunately they sided with her and advised me to settle the matter or go to the CTTT. Not wanting to go to the CTTT for something so silly, we came to a compromise and although I was seething I had to let it go! In hindsight, I probably should have taken it to the CTTT just to prove my point… |
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